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Thread: The fear of loss.

  1. #1
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    The fear of loss.

    I can kind of understand why some people might be afraid to activate and release geocoins since they seem to be a high theft, but why does it seem Arkansans are lothe to put out ordinary travel bugs?

    I've sent out 8 bugs and one coin so far and I was looking about for some to take on a trip recently when I noticed that there were only 177 caches in all of Arkansas that list as having bugs in them (some might have more than one bug.) Out of curiosity I ran the same search mor Misouri and came up with twice as many (344) caches that contained bugs.

    Well, I thought...maybe they have more caches, after all Tennessee has some 6000 caches, but nope Misouri has less caches than Arkansas. (2083 to our 2096)

    So what gives with Arkansans and TBs?

    (edit to add: The poll question refers to TB's you have actived and released, not how many you may have horded.... )

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    We as a state may have released more or less then other states, Iím not debating that at all but how many Tbs are resting in our States caches has nothing to do with how many we released, they are meant to travel.
    I have released 3 and none of them are listed as being in this State and I just picked up one in Hot Springs that would have shown up on your radar but it was released at 08:14, 05-09-05 in Arizona.
    I donít have any coins except those Iím holding (no hoarding by me) for those cachers like you who may want them.
    I have only one TB that I have not released into the wild and every one who makes a mouse hunt knows why.
    It seems to me that there is a general, growing disenchantment with Tbs but I wouldnít know for sure. Even if more bugs were being bought and even released there are more cachers today then there were yesterday.
    Live a good, honorable life. Then when you get older and think back, you'll enjoy it a second time.

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    I hadn't really considered in the light of the fact that the TB's Arkansans had launched would have likely left the state, but it still begs the question of why there is such a large dispairity between Arkansas and Misouri in the number of caches with TB's in them.

    Do the folks from MO visit and take out TB's back with them? Should we implement a one for one TB rule for the state? (Tongue in cheek here.) Is Misouri a TB prison (they already have a statewide one-for-one rule?)

    I haven't taken the time yet to run the numbers and see if ratio of caches to TB's is so wildly skewed elsewhere yet, but I may later...

    AR_kayaker.

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    Maybe our Tbs are faster then theirs and just ďget out of DodgeĒ faster.

    Maybe it is the constant sound of banjo music in our mountains and the out-o-towners hope to secure safe passage by latching onto a local bug tag, sort of like an Arkansas ID dog tag so they can cross the State safely.

    To see the true picture there is a lot of facts, or lack of them, that need to be looked at. I havenít even looked at my own stats to see if most of my tag pickups were in-state origin or out but I think out would be safe bet.

    If you do decide to except this mission and figure in the ratio of virtual, to micro, to ammo can sized caches for each Stateís, still in-State, State origin tag, then figure in the ratio of in-State and out of State cache finds per each State, it would suprise me if New York City had the same ratio of ammo can caches that would easily hold a bug as we do. I would enjoy reading the results. Then we can look at the same stats in a year letís say, and see if itís just coincidental fluctuation or if those numbers are revealing a real and permanent pattern in the lack of in-State origin bugs.
    Ah but life and the pursuit of knowledge is fun, right?
    BPNJ
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    TBs

    I have 55 TBs on http://www.geocaching.com and 32 Travel Tags http://www.travelertags.com/, and only one has been muggled, taken when a TB hotel dissappeared.

    Several of my bugs have 7k+ miles on them and several have 2 or more countries. Even my son's 10k gold 2003 Birmingham Barons Southeastern Championship Baseball ring (Baron Bug), which we were convinced we'd never see again when we launched it as part of an MLB Stadium Race, traveled for 18 months and 8,000 miles through the US and Canada before coming back home!

    Things aren't as bleak as one might imagine - it's like watching too much TV news - you don't hear about the good stuff, so you might be misled to think the whole world is haywire! In fact the nutters are a vast minority, but reporting 'everything is normal, most folks are happy, that's the news' isn't how they keep your eyeballs glued to the tube!

    I am happy to report that I see TBs coming from and going to Arkansas pass through caches and events fairly often!

    Ed

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    Rambler TB

    Huh, this thread made me go check my bugs, seems one more is gone, Grosse Point Lighthouse made it to its destination, got some good pics, but won't be coming home. RIP!

    On another note, does it mean that you attend too many events when your personal TB is approaching 18,000 miles, and that thing doesn't even get logged at about 30% of the events I attend?

    I love this game!
    Ed

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    Re: TBs

    Quote Originally Posted by TheAlabamaRambler
    I have 55 TBs on http://www.geocaching.com and 32 Travel Tags http://www.travelertags.com/, and only one has been muggled, taken when a TB hotel dissappeared.
    Wow. That's gotta be the best ratio I've seen for TBs. Any tips you would like to share?

    Regarding Arkansas' TB numbers, I think Jack brought up a good point about the ratios of virts/micros to regular/large-sized caches. I'd be interested to see what percentage of Arkansas caches are virtuals and micros, then compare that to other states.

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    We took 3 Bugs and 1 coin on a recent trip through TN, NC, and VA. I saw 1 Bug in all the caches we visited! I dropped each of the things we had brought along according to their goals, got them some good mileage, but I was disappointed to not bring home more than I did. OH well. We did visit several virtuals, since we were in Ntl Parks. But we also did several regular size at welcome centers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BACKPACKNJACK
    ../.. and figure in the ratio of virtual, to micro, to ammo can sized caches for each Stateís, still in-State, State origin tag, then figure in the ratio of in-State and out of State cache finds per each State,..../... and see if itís just coincidental fluctuation or if those numbers are revealing a real and permanent pattern in the lack of in-State origin bugs.
    BPNJ
    Now folks-who-hunt-parallel-sticks-in-the-woods, I donít know if it was even a little bit of fun to read the above but it was just a whole lot of fun writing it.

    I was working on another response with even less delineated concepts about this phenomenon but it must have had too many words like: undisputed, undeterminable, unmanifested, undiscernible, undecipherable, undiscredited, plus undisheartened because I wore the ďUĒ off of my keyboard, canít find it anymore, and I had to quit.
    BPNJ
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    Quote Originally Posted by BACKPACKNJACK
    ...I wore the ďUĒ off of my keyboard... BPNJ
    Very uncanny that you should lose the U and not the N. Extremely uncommon. Undoubtedly there is an underlying and under-rated cause and you should uncover it undauntedly. Understand???


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