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Thread: Logging of finds??????

  1. #11
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    I'm from Russellville and was afraid you all were talking about me until I read IRBH's post.

    I had four caches I wanted to leave when we moved to Mississippi so I asked ORR to adopt them. After they were adopted, my number of Cache Hides dropped by four and those caches started to show up on my PQ. It didn't seem right that I "lost" four hides, and I didn't want the caches to keep showing up on my PQ when I came back to visit, so I logged them as finds.

    Now that we moved back, I re-adopted them and they once again count as hides . I thought about deleting my logs, but then the "special" caches I found for my 00 milestones would no longer be the same.

    In the grand scheme of things, I don't think having four additional finds is going to impress anyone. While I do have pride in the number of finds we have, I'm certainly not in competition with anyone. I'm more interested in how many states we've found caches in.

    I do agree that cachers should not be logging their own hides, but at least they are hiding them. What really bothers me are the cachers with over 1000 finds and 0 hides, but that's a subject for another thread.
    "Honey, we're not normal people. We're the Griswolds. "


  2. #12
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    Seeing as how Im the "n00b" here, I probably have no place in this thread (with my measly 105 finds)!
    But reading this makes me very aware of things I need to pay very close attention to!

    Tonight, my very first 4 hides were published (and yes, Im more excited than a fat kind in a Mc Donalds palyground), in NO way do I want to make a mistake (rules or not) in how I do things!

    I would hope, that if I make a mistake in logs, or maintenance, or even hiding up and coming caches, that someone would show me the correct way of doing things!

    There really is a TON of information for us new guys/gals to take in and learn!

    So, Im here, asking, someone please be patient with me and help me and other newbs along! I dont mind someone taking me by the hand and leading me, but do it in a respectful way!

    I know yall will, because that is the kind of community that we (most cachers anyway) have! And Im proud to be a part of this community!

    Thanks for making me a little more aware!

  3. #13
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    1- I dont think it's right to log finds on caches that you have hidden. the whole idea strikes me as ridiculous. The whole sport of geocaching is based on honesty... what's to prevent someone from just sitting down at the computer and start logging finds on caches he's never visited?
    2- Logging the outside of a rolled-up log. I'm guilty as charged. There, i said it. Mostly i do it on those #$%#! nanos that i can never seem to get rolled
    back up properly. If this is a big issue for hiders, let me know and i promise
    to quit it.
    3- off hand i can only think of a couple of caches i logged as a find without
    signing the log. Both were logged with owner's permission, as they were
    missing.
    BTW- if someone thinks that one of my caches is missing, and can describe
    the hiding spot well enough, i will usually tell them to go ahead and log it
    as a find, as i dont want them to have to make another trip just to sign the log.
    unless of course, it's AR-Hick. He ALWAYS has to go back a second time

  4. #14
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    Quote Originally Posted by HikerRon
    if someone thinks that one of my caches is missing, and can describe the hiding spot well enough, i will usually tell them to go ahead and log it as a find, as i dont want them to have to make another trip just to sign the log.
    That's always been my policy on my own caches also. I do alot of long distance caching, sometimes going through an area that I may not intend to go back through for a long time. It's really annoying to spend alot of time on some cache, then find out later it wasn't even there. It's a very polite & professional thing to do for a fellow cacher to just let them claim it in a case like that, especially if it's obvious they spent a great deal of time trying to find it.

    That's also the reason I provide a usable hint on all of my caches which are above a "1" or so. I'm secure enough about my ability to hide a cache & make it difficult, if that's what I intend to do, without using "hint-suspension" as part of that difficulty.

    I want the finder to have fun on my hides. As long as he/she does that, is satisfied with their experience, & at least makes a decent effort to find it....that's good enough for me. If the cache is missing, in the wrong place, wrong coordinates, bad puzzle, or something similar....then that's MY fault. I'll take the hit on that & let the cacher claim it if he wants, to save a special trip back out just to sign a log.

    But that's my own modus operandi & I know from experience that everyone doesn't share the same feelings towards caching. In the end, it's the cache-owners decision, since it's his cache. If he wants to be strict or lenient, that's his/her own personal choice.

    But of course it is reciprocal. If someone makes me drive 50 miles again just to put a sig on a log which was too soaked to sign ....... they shouldn't be at all surprised when I delete their OWN log which says, "I could see the cache, but couldn't sign the log, because it was guarded by a pack of rattlesnakes. So I'm going to claim a find here".

    No.....you ain't.

  5. #15
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    THAT'S what I can do with these irritating snow days! I will just sit right down here and log 10,000 virtuals that are not being watched anymore and I'll be the top finder in the state! No wait, I'll do 35,000 and then I'll be the number one in the world!
    Just kidding, of course, but that does illustrate a point. Special situations where someone logs their own for event temps, or in a special circumstance such as the one the The Griswolds explained are one thing, but to routinely bump your numbers by doing a drive by, or when it should be a maintenence log on your own cache, I think is wrong. If anyone doesn't think that there is some amount of FRIENDLY competition among cachers for the numbers, you are lying to yourslef. I am a competetive person, and so are many other cachers that I know, whether they will admit it or not. So to bump those numbers falsely would be cheating in that regard.
    As for event temps, I can see TNT's point, but with the competitive standpoint now being admitted to, I'll quit when every body else does.
    There is my two cents worth if anyone cares. Happy snow day everyone!
    Guess what?! I got a fever, and the only prescription...is more cowbell!!

  6. #16
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    Did somebody get snow? Only a few inches all winter in NWA. Not even enough to be bothered with.

  7. #17
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    HikerRon said
    AR-Hick. He ALWAYS has to go back a second time
    I am so happy to be of priviledge

    Maybe I should do a little thinking for my OLD Buddy HikerRon
    I have friends in overalls whose friendship I would not swap for the favor of the kings of the world.
    Thomas A. Edison

  8. #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by TnT
    Did somebody get snow? Only a few inches all winter in NWA. Not even enough to be bothered with.
    Seems like the snow has sorta went through the middle of the state this year. We had 8 inches on the ground yesterday in my Fourche Valley cow pasture. It's mostly ice now though, because of the cold temps last night. I know, because I "requested" some snow ice cream & received a vanilla flavored ice slush instead.

    We had just a bit on Christmas Eve, about 3 inches around Jan. 10th, & some more some other time. The way this valley points straight towards Oklahoma....if there is snow in the area, we get hammered by it.

    Don't get tornadoes down in here however, so I can live with the snow.

  9. #19
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    Logging of finds??????????

    I believe it was HikerRon who posted a thread in the NWAC forums
    about geo-senility.

    Lately I can't seem to find a 1/1 rated cache, so I doubt if I could find
    my own hides during routine checks.

    I find it hard to believe someone would log their own caches, but it
    must be happening. If someone likes to cheat or embellish their numbers
    in a game/sport/ hobby like this one, could you trust them with more
    important issues in life? I would have to say NO, but they will more than likely to be the first ones to want a helping hand when the time comes.

    They will have to be the ones to live with what everyone else already knows about them, and those numbers will mean a lot more than than their number of finds.

  10. #20
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    Found my own cache today

    Today while checking on some of my old caches I found one of my caches that had been washed away due to Lake Greeson flooding back in 02/03 2007. It was about a 1/4 mile from where it was originally hidden. I found it beside the trail partially covered with leaves. The contents were dry and in good shape due to the unbeatable ammo can.
    I guess it has been floating around all this time.
    Now since I found it 3 years later and 1/4 mile from where I placed it, Do I get to log it? Just kidding! I already read what you all think of folks that do that!
    The Smilie just Ain't worth it!!!

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