Liar, liar pants on fire.
We are very disappointed to belong to ArkGeocaching.org. We have noticed there is a cliché and some members get more preferential treatment than others. Only a few are acknowledged and encouragement is given to selective few. Some members when they get 100, 200, 300 and 500 caches ( congratulations to this cachers) they get acknowledged and some don’t. Arparkguy was trying to do some good and went to a lot of trouble putting up A CITO and did not get much support, but he sure got picked on and criticized by members. It would have been nicer instead to offer support for the CITO program. It take a lot of work to organize one. Keep up the good work even if you don’t get a lot of support. Cacher that are picking on others have not done any good for the club or Geocaching, the only thing they accomplish is showing off their loud mouth. Some are raking in caches for numbers and competition to look good, we wonder how many of these caches have they done unassisted and how many caches were they got help (when you are guided by another cacher or called 5 people to tell you outright were it is)???? We have found out by accident that some caches are logged on the cache page but when we sign the log we did not find their name in the log book. Some cachers get hints and tips and other don’t’ get any response. Some cache box owner are not checking the logs or doing any maintenance to make sure they got the right loggers or say anything about it if they don‘t sign the log book. This sound very fishy . We where enjoying a good old fashion geocaching and still do, but after joining the club it turns out to be lot of friction and competition and not as enjoyable as before. We could go on and on, but it is very disappointed how some members are treated. Maybe we do understand, we don’t belong to the cliché. Sorry if we insulted some members, but this is how it is. We are going back to old fashion caching and not paying attention to other cachers .We are supporting geocaching programs that will do some good for the organization not one that criticize members that are trying to do good and show such bias to others. Every time we visit this sight we are upset and it is not worth it.
Re: Liar, liar pants on fire.
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Originally Posted by twooldcrows
We are very disappointed to belong to ArkGeocaching.org. We have noticed there is a cliché and some members get more preferential treatment than others.........Some members when they get 100, 200, 300 and 500 caches ( congratulations to this cachers) they get acknowledged and some don’t..............he sure got picked on and criticized by members...........Some are raking in caches for numbers and competition to look good...............We have found out by accident that some caches are logged on the cache page but when we sign the log we did not find their name in the log book............... Some cachers get hints and tips and other don’t’ get any response................ Some cache box owner are not checking the logs or doing any maintenance to make sure they got the right loggers or say anything about it if they don‘t sign the log book.
Shame on you, members of Arkansas Geocaching Association. Shame, shame, shame. Why can't you do right, like all the other geocachers?
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Originally Posted by twooldcrows
We are going back to old fashion caching and not paying attention to other cachers .We are supporting geocaching programs that will do some good for the organization not one that criticize members that are trying to do good and show such bias to others. Every time we visit this sight we are upset and it is not worth it.
Looks like you've found a solution. No point in doing something you know is going to upset you.
Re: Liar, liar pants on fire.
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Originally Posted by twooldcrows
Some members when they get 100, 200, 300 and 500 caches (congratulations to this cachers) they get acknowledged and some don’t.
To get this thread back on track, I must say that I did not perceive the purpose of these congratulatory posts to be exclusionary by any means. I simply see them as a friendly gesture among fellow members.
Further, it would be a very time-consuming job to track each member's number of finds and then post congratulatory messages every time a milestone is reached. (If someone would like to take on this daunting task, go for it!)
Nose as long as a telephone wire
I saw this post this past weekend but could not post anything at the time since I had to hit the road and get back to Arkansas. Since then it has been interesting to see the comments and the direction this thread has taken. I am fairly new to this sport (hobby?) and have only been caching for a few months.
I would like to apologize for:
Posting a new topic announcing my 100th find. At the time I thought I was doing just what everybody else did on their local GC site. Now I see that I was just gloating and wanting undeserved comments from others.
Finding one of GK38's caches twice. Sorry man, I screwed up and went back to one of your caches by mistake 2 months later. I signed the log book a second time and actually remembered to post the find on the GC site the second time around.
Not going to either CITO event. I was new to geocaching. I was unsure about meeting others and I couldn't convince my wife to go to Withrow Springs. When I did finally decide to try for the other one the date came and went. I forgot about it. Jack can hold me down while Topkitty gives me a noogie.
Doing the Mission Impossible cache. I shamefully admit I did it for no other reason then to try and get the opportunity to meet fellow ArkGeo cachers. Is this the secret clique? Did I somehow stumble into the inner circle? All I need now is the secret handshake and password!
Asking for help. Yes, I have done it and I am so sorry that I did it. Maybe I will start using a new acronym - HHF (Had Help Finding) then I can be open about it and not have to come under any scrutiny. Sometimes the owner gives a direct hint or help and, sometimes, they just gently nudge you in the right direction. Either way it is shameful and disgraceful.
Finding a cache, not signing the log and then taking credit for it. Actually, I don't apologize for this. Have you ever gone through every bramble, briar, thicket and ant pile in 90° heat just to find the cache and realize that you don't have anything to sign the log with? Not take credit? Kiss my Avatar.
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So far, I have only met a handful of local cachers in realtime. Everyone of them have been friendly, helpful and courteous. There are many I have not met but have taken note of from their postings and proximity to my "local" caching area. Many of them I want to meet. Especially grandkid38 for the wonderful Burns Park caches, LE and her brood, topkitty and geoj, backpacknjack (I want a ride in his car), Rhone, and even twooldcrows! Many more! What a kindred group of people. Thanks for being there.
Is there a clique? If so, and you are in it, then you have probably been here from the start. You deserve your status. Maybe one day I can fit in. Until then I am going to run up my numbers for my benefit!
Oh, and I will probably be away from geocaching for awhile. I will let you know when I can come back. :wink:
Just like Otus the Head Cat in the Arkansas Dem Gazette - not everything you read is real. Most of it is tongue in cheek. Take it with a huge grain of salt.
Re: Nose as long as a telephone wire
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Originally Posted by SpankytheWizard
I saw this post this past weekend but could not post anything at the time since I had to hit the road and get back to Arkansas. Since then it has been interesting to see the comments and the direction this thread has taken. I am fairly new to this sport (hobby?) and have only been caching for a few months.
I would like to apologize for:
Posting a new topic announcing my 100th find. At the time I thought I was doing just what everybody else did on their local GC site. Now I see that I was just gloating and wanting undeserved comments from others.
Finding one of GK38's caches twice. Sorry man, I screwed up and went back to one of your caches by mistake 2 months later. I signed the log book a second time and actually remembered to post the find on the GC site the second time around.
Not going to either CITO event. I was new to geocaching. I was unsure about meeting others and I couldn't convince my wife to go to Withrow Springs. When I did finally decide to try for the other one the date came and went. I forgot about it. Jack can hold me down while Topkitty gives me a noogie.
Doing the Mission Impossible cache. I shamefully admit I did it for no other reason then to try and get the opportunity to meet fellow ArkGeo cachers. Is this the secret clique? Did I somehow stumble into the inner circle? All I need now is the secret handshake and password!
Asking for help. Yes, I have done it and I am so sorry that I did it. Maybe I will start using a new acronym - HHF (Had Help Finding) then I can be open about it and not have to come under any scrutiny. Sometimes the owner gives a direct hint or help and, sometimes, they just gently nudge you in the right direction. Either way it is shameful and disgraceful.
Finding a cache, not signing the log and then taking credit for it. Actually, I don't apologize for this. Have you ever gone through every bramble, briar, thicket and ant pile in 90° heat just to find the cache and realize that you don't have anything to sign the log with? Not take credit? Kiss my Avatar.
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So far, I have only met a handful of local cachers in realtime. Everyone of them have been friendly, helpful and courteous. There are many I have not met but have taken note of from their postings and proximity to my "local" caching area. Many of them I want to meet. Especially grandkid38 for the wonderful Burns Park caches, LE and her brood, topkitty and geoj, backpacknjack (I want a ride in his car), Rhone, and even twooldcrows! Many more! What a kindred group of people. Thanks for being there.
Is there a clique? If so, and you are in it, then you have probably been here from the start. You deserve your status. Maybe one day I can fit in. Until then I am going to run up my numbers for my benefit!
Oh, and I will probably be away from geocaching for awhile. I will let you know when I can come back. :wink:
Just like Otus the Head Cat in the Arkansas Dem Gazette - not everything you read is real. Most of it is tongue in cheek. Take it with a huge grain of salt.
Wow, do I detect extreme SARCASM??? Kinda seems like it to me, but hey if I am wrong......
Let me add my .02 to your comments if I may.....Oh wait I may ;)
1. I personally don't see any problem with anyone posting they found a milestone 100, 200, 300 etc....I also don't see any problem with other cachers congratulating someone on the milestone.
2. I also don't see anything wrong with visiting a cache and noting that in the logbook at the cache site more than once, I have been to several caches more than once, but I only log a find ONCE, unless that is the owner has changed the location. If the location is changed I usually log it as a find again.
3. As I said earlier in this thread, if you live in the area of the cache I find it pointless to ask for help, log a DNF and go look for it again next weekend. Anyone ever asked the owner for a hint just so you could be a FTF? If so that is more shameful and disgraceful than just asking for help.
4. Finally the best for last, no I have NEVER went caching when I didn't have some type of writing utensil to sign a log book, I care a couple of pens with me, just in case the cache is missing a writing instrument. I also carry a pen with me, because I hate using those nubs of pencils to sign a Micro. I firmly believe if you don't sign the log at the cache site, the owner of the cache has every right to delete your online log (hence decreasing your numbers.) So my advice on that one would be take the Boy Scout motto to heart, Be prepared.
5. Oh wait, I do have a question......What benefit is there of running your numbers up?
I also wonder why only a certain few cachers have not commented on this thread.....................
DK
Sarcasm, moi? I guess I am not as funny as I thought
Sorry DK, Not sarcasm, but humor.
In my entire post I took pot shots at myself and no one else. I did not point a finger or cast any blame or innuendo on a fellow cacher. If I have discovered one universal truth in my first six months. It is that we are all a bunch of individuals that have a desire to geocache - whether a little or a lot. Individuals. With different opinions and lives.
So here is my clarification to your responses in hopes that nobody misunderstood me the first time around:
5. I am not "running my numbers up" and, I also see no benefit in doing so. There is no cash prize for whoever has the most at the end of the day. Just satisfaction. Find what you want when you want it. If someone derives their whole raison de la vie from caching - let 'em.
4. Sorry, I was prepared to sign the log. I did have a pencil. Seems I dropped it somewhere along the way. I did not have it velcroed to my body. It happens. I also have never had an owner question whether I have found their cache. If they did I could probably describe the area well enough to satisfy them. I hate it when someone goes to my caches and has a DNF. It's supposed to be fun, not frustrating.
3. Wow, I agree!
2. This was one of those things that was totally, 100% tongue-in-cheek. I was trying to portray MY complete boneheadedness at going to the same cache - by accident - a second time. Not logging it twice but actually finding it twice because I FORGOT that I had done so. Yuk Yuk.
1. Again, another attempt at humor and something that took a potshot at me. Since you had posted that you agreed 100% with most, if not all, that twooldcrows had to say I attempted to deflect criticism towards myself since I was a recent poster of my 100th find and many people had taken the time to - ohmigod! - congratulate me. Did that "arrow of shame" hit close to home? Yes, it did. But, I have tried to speak in specifics and not generalities. I haven't done any broad stroke condemnation on this forum nor tried to tar a whole group with the same brush. Now, that's a cliché.